tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-969156847256652198.post3995288937064959447..comments2023-06-21T11:58:47.093-04:00Comments on West Side Action: BikeWest - part iii - from Booth to BayviewEric Darwinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01042460139621819388noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-969156847256652198.post-4954394976452333102009-09-22T20:25:36.739-04:002009-09-22T20:25:36.739-04:00David: I like your logic. It makes sense.
Howeve...David: I like your logic. It makes sense.<br /><br /> However, sidewalks are also used to access the buildings along the roadway. When apts and condos are built all along Albert from Bronson to Bayview, ped.access to each building would require crossing the cycle path. This would thwart the 'through traffic' feature of BikeWest.<br /><br />If the sidewalk is along the outside of the bike path, pedestrians could cross the cycle path and street at intersections and have uninterruped access to buildings. <br /><br />Note too that the buildings proposed in the City's Escarpment Plan for Albert from Bronson to Empress all have vehicle access not from Albert but from a new road built where old Wellington now is. <br /><br />For the segment from Bayview to Dominion along Scott, the transitway is the north edge of the boulevard so the issues of building access are rarer. Instead we get the transit stations...<br /><br />Which configuration is better? I dont know. It might need be different for each route segment.Eric Darwinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01042460139621819388noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-969156847256652198.post-77715121545223539772009-09-22T19:32:45.492-04:002009-09-22T19:32:45.492-04:00I like it. When will it open?I like it. When will it open?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-969156847256652198.post-44822480128940558972009-09-22T16:02:09.637-04:002009-09-22T16:02:09.637-04:00Leaving aside my reservations for this kind of thi...Leaving aside my reservations for this kind of thing (one of them being that I doubt there is anyone at City Hall capable of getting the signaling and intersections right given their deplorable track record everywhere else paths and roads meet), I would place the sidewalk between the road and the cycleway and not north of them both as you have.<br /><br />For one, this avoids a conflict at bus stops between pedestrians and cyclists - we already have problems in shared bus-bike lanes so we need not add to overall level of conflicts by adding pedestrians into the mix.<br /><br />For another, it avoids (or at least lessens) the wrong-way cycling issue. With a path next to or very close to the road, eastbound cyclists will effectively be cycling against traffic. By separating them by a few metres, this issue can be avoided or lessened, especially if the separation includes trees and shrubs.<br /><br />The more distance there is between the cycleway and the parallel road, the more likely it is that someone will spot conflicting movements before it is too late.<br /><br />I realize that facilitating snowplowing was a concern and rationale for placing the cycleway beside the road, but my response to that is that a cycleway right next to the road is going to become an interim snow dump while the road is cleared, no matter how much we might wish it otherwise and no matter what policies are enacted. To deal with snowclearing, I would make sure that the cycleway is wide enough to be cleared by a plow-equipped pick-up truck, which are very common, rather than relying on the much rarer sidewalk plows.Davidnoreply@blogger.com